By Peter Bell

Online Accounting Software - What Do You Use?

Right now, we use Quickbooks Online for the US business and a shrink wrapped copy of Quickbooks (the UK edition) for the UK business. What we'd really like to find is an online package that we can use for all of our companies (US, UK and soon Ireland) to keep track of all of the accounts. Ideally a nice API we could use to generate invoices would be nice, although that isn't essential.

Anyone have any recommendations of affordable small business online accounting packages that might be able to handle the multi-country, multi-currency, multi-company requirements without being priced for an IBM or a General Motors?

Any input appreciated . . .

Comments
I think mint is a great app, but I think is US only for now, they are going to go to UK though

www.mint.com
# Posted By Raul Riera | 11/3/08 8:04 AM
I use "Krystal" - a ColdFusion application I built several years ago and am still tweaking even for Centaur (CF9).

It is not for sale though.
# Posted By Angus McLaren | 11/3/08 8:15 AM
Check out Lifehacker - they have had a few posts on this recently. I was looking for something for my wife as well. Right now I think she's checking out Quickbooks online since they are now free and Mint.
# Posted By Jim Priest | 11/3/08 8:19 AM
Web-based accounting software really lags behind desktop software. My business carries inventory (we sell servers and software licenses in addition to developing web apps) and none of the current small business online accounting apps are set up to handle that, as far as I know (where as Quickbooks, Peachtree, and MYOB on the desktop all handle inventory nicely).

Our current solution-- which is not ideal-- is to run our MYOB desktop accounting software on a firewalled machine in the same colo as our web servers, and access it via remote desktop. This gives us high-bandwidth access to the accounting system from everywhere, and makes backups a bit easier also. But I'd much rather be using a hosted web application, if I could find one which meets my needs.
# Posted By David C-L | 11/3/08 8:51 AM
You may trust to keep your basic personal details with an online company like name, address, contact numbers, even your credit card number or names of your children, but I can't understand why people would trust every financial record of their business with an online service. Nothing is more sensitive to a business than its financial data. Remember, sometimes online companies screw up or they get hacked. It's extremely rare but it does happen so it's not an inconceivable thought.

And for that reason I will only ever use a desktop application where I'm in 100% total control of the security of my financial data and network. If I needed to access my data from another location (why?) I'd take my laptop and heavily encrypt the file or entire hard drive. Just my 2 cents.
# Posted By Gary Fenton | 11/3/08 9:16 AM
@Gary, And if you, your book keeper and your accountant are usually all in different cities/countries? I find remote access to accounts to be worth the potential risk of the hacking (honestly it's more likely that someone would be able to hack my laptop than quickbooks online).

Also, in the worst case, there really isn't anythig that sensitive in my accounts. I don't plan on publishing them on my blog, but I wouldn't forsee any huge calamities were some of the information to be available publicly - there isn't any part of my business model that depends on people not knowing what I spend or make, and as for my team, I keep them up to date with the financial status of the business.
# Posted By Peter Bell | 11/3/08 9:21 AM
@David, Interesting point. I guess worst case I could just install on a server and provide remote access, but I'd like a simple SaaS offering if I could find one that meets my needs. I agree with you that the online offerings tend to be behind their shrink wrapped competition, but the question isn't whether it has all of the features, but rather whether it has all of the features that *i* need . . .
# Posted By Peter Bell | 11/3/08 9:23 AM
@Jim, Thanks, although I wasn't able to pull anything up using their search for "accounting". I also thought they'd done something about this but I couldn't find it :-(

Oh well . . .
# Posted By Peter Bell | 11/3/08 9:24 AM
I use CashBoard (http://www.getcashboard.com/) for my estimates, time tracking, and invoicing. It keeps track of all of my payments received and applies them to invoices etc... all web-based. Has met all of my needs so far.

Some friends of mine have a web-based product called LessAccounting (http://lessaccounting.com) which is another really nice application as well. A little more in-depth as far as the things that it tracks such as expenses and re-imbursables.
# Posted By Russ Johnson | 11/3/08 10:48 AM
I am one of the makers of Clarity Accounting (http://www.clarityaccounting.com). It is intended for small business owners who do some or all of their own bookkeeping and want a nice, clean, easy to use user interface. As well as being user-friendly, the application is also intended to be accountant-friendly, as it provides a general ledger function and standard accounting reports and accounts.

Currently we have direct support for Swiss VAT and Canadian GST, but if you point us at a place describing the sales tax rules in your area we can make those available as well.

Our application allows you to access multiple businesses using a single login, and we also support multiple currencies in a single business as well as allowing each business to have a different primary currency.

Please check us out and let us know what you think. If you don't think we meet your needs, I do have a giant list of other online accounting applications, one of them might do the job.

Also, someone earlier complained about the lack of inventory control in online accounting applications - I have run into one application that seemed promising in this regard - based on their demo, NetBooks seems to have a very CoGS and Inventory module in their application.
# Posted By Dobes Vandermeer | 11/3/08 2:21 PM
Hi Peter. Nowadays, the depth of functionality available in online accounting software is, in some cases, amazingly good. We can fulfil your requirements and you have the comfort of knowing that there are over 15,000 companies already using e-conomic.

Have a look at <A HREF="http://www.e-conomic.co.uk">our web site </A> and you can take a free trial of of the package without obligation. We have the following trial versions:
- a basic one with historic data
- one including the Stock Management module
- one including the Project Accounting module
- one including the Subscription module
- a blank one that you can use to start setting up your own accounts as a free trial, which can later be converted to a subscription.

Even in the basic one, you have multi-currency, online invoicing, the ability to tailor the invoice format as much as you like, the ability to send invoices out by e-mail to your customers. You can have whatever base currency you want for each company and we have a free API module which you can use to build integrations.

The cost of the basic version is £13.50/mth for small companies, £27.00/mth for all others. Full pricing details are on our web site.

Regards
Mark Davies
e-conomic
# Posted By Mark Davies | 11/4/08 10:42 AM
Freshbooks.com is fantastic (http://wapurl.co.uk/?221S53N) - freeAgent is good for the UK as well.
# Posted By nick tong | 11/14/08 11:08 AM
http://www.clearbooks.co.uk is one of the more recent additions to the web based accounting software fraternity.

Like e-conomic and clarityaccounting, ClearBooks is web based and so has the advantages of flexible access, cross platform, muti-user and free updates and upgrades.
# Posted By ClearBooks Online Accounting Software | 3/29/09 11:48 AM
CoreVI has started to internationalize their online accounting software.
# Posted By Terry S | 4/23/09 1:38 PM
CoreVI is an online accounting software. It has been internationalized and may be what you are looking for. Enhancement may be requested. Demo is online for evaluation.
# Posted By Terry Smith | 5/21/09 9:55 AM
BlogCFC was created by Raymond Camden. This blog is running version 5.005.